i saw that an old friend on facebook had tried these victory rolls with her hair and asked her for tips. i won't lie and tell you it was easy. i spent thirty minutes trying really hard to create the rolls and failed miserably. the next morning i woke up and decided "not to try." of course this method always works. because i wasn't trying and had very low expectations - i totally rocked it. (for the record, it's way harder with long hair).